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Recent History
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Posted: 2010-08-31 10:56:47 PDT By Will Stout
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I am looking for a source of recent history. In particular I am interested in the transition in employment from a fishing logging community to a tourist service community.
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Looking for information on a home built in 1887
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Posted: 2010-08-23 16:53:13 PDT By Joan Chavez
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I now run The Good Home Store at the location of 1006 W 11th Street. I was told that the building that we are in was built in 1887 and I have had trouble looking for information on it. I hope you can help me. Please call between 10:30 am and 5:30 pm Monday - Saturday or email with info to cjoan26@yahoo.com.
Thank you for your work and God Bless
Joan Chavez
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McClees, McLees, McCleese
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Posted: 2010-08-05 15:15:05 PDT By Elizabeth Rosenberg
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Daniel and Margaret Mcclees lived on the Elwha River in section 34 Twp 31N in the 1880's. He died in 1890 and she died in 1896. I have her obit from October 16th, 1896. Looking for photographs. he was there as early as 1870. (census native wife) margaret in Illinois 1870. Cannot locate Daniel in 1860. He was a gold rush miner located in Placerville in 1850 census. have info to share
Liz
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Re: McClees, McLees, McCleese
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Posted: 2010-08-18 15:18:16 PDT By Kathy Monds
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Hi Liz:
The Clallam County Genealogical Society has information about the McClees family.
Please contact them at ccgs@olypen.com.
The Query Ladies
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We Found the Ediz Hook Lighthouse Stairs!
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Posted: 2010-06-24 13:09:58 PDT By New Dungeness Light Station Association
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I am the General Manager of the New Dungeness Light Station. One of our members was at a commercial garage sale and discovered about 40 feet of cast-iron circular stairs with railing and center post that was definitely from a lighthouse! Upon further investigation they turned out to be from the Ediz Hook light. Contact me by e-mail (rjdewitt@olypen.com) or phone (681-3494) and I can send photos and contact info.
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Old photograph
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Posted: 2010-06-21 21:59:01 PDT By Talia Orem
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I am looking for a photograph that was displayed in the Klahhane exhibit at the Museum at the Carnegie a few years ago. This b&w photo was taken on Mt. Olympus. It shows 2 or 3 women in ankle-length skirts and a couple of men. They were standing on an ice shelf. Is it possible to ask you to find it for me?
Thank you.
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Re: Old photograph
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Posted: 2010-06-23 11:15:32 PDT By Kathy Monds
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Hi Talia:
We have the photo you are referring to in our collection. How do you want to proceed?
The Query Ladies
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Re: Old photograph
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Posted: 2010-06-23 21:26:18 PDT By Talia Orem
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Dear Query Ladies;
Wow, you sure work fast! What is your procedure for me to obtain a good copy that will be used for the Klahhane Club centennial project that I am working on? Also, might it be possible to scan the picture and attach it to an email?
Thank you. You have been wonderfully helpful.
Talia
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Re: Old photograph
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Posted: 2010-06-24 09:09:30 PDT By Kathy Monds
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Hi Talia:
The charge for a scan is $20.00. We'll send you a Photo Request Form; as soon as we receive the signed form and a check, we'll e-mail the scan to you.
Please send your contact information directly to
artifact@olypen.com.
Thank you!
The Query Ladies
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Re: Re: Old photograph
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Posted: 2010-07-06 12:08:00 PDT By Talia Orem
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Would it be possible for me to come in and take a picture of the photograph? This picture might, or might not be used for the Klahhane Club 100 year celebration book that our group is compiling. I will be in town on Thursday July 8 around 2:30.
Thank you.
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Re: Old photograph
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Posted: 2010-07-06 14:19:07 PDT By Kathy Monds
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Hi Talia:
There would still be a charge for you to take a photo of the photo. If you are not sure about whether or not it will be used, it might be best to just have a photocopy. Then you can decide how you want to proceed.
I'd be happy to talk with you on Thursday. If I'm not in the office at Lincoln School, I will be over in the school.
The Query Ladies
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Arcadia Resort
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Posted: 2010-06-19 08:34:21 PDT By Ted Bedford
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Where on Lake Crescent was the Arcadia Resort located?
Ted Bedford
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Re: Arcadia Resort
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Posted: 2010-06-21 10:54:28 PDT By Kathy Monds
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Hi Ted:
Thought this would be SO easy, but I was mistaken!
The Arcadia Resort was located on the northwest corner of Lake Crescent, 1 1/2 miles off Highway 101. Advertising for this resort appeared in the Olympic Peninsula Resort and Hotel Directory beginning in 1941. Its final listing in that publication was 1960. It was originally owned by Julius H. Peterson.
Thanks for the query!
The Query Ladies
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Clallam County Courthouse
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Posted: 2010-06-10 20:23:23 PDT By Peggy Johnson
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I was told there was a fire at the courthouse in the 1920s that distroyed a lot of files. Is this correct?
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Re: Clallam County Courthouse
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Posted: 2010-06-18 08:35:04 PDT By Kathy Monds
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Hi Peggy:
Our files do not indicate any fires at the Clallam County courthouse during the 1920s. Do you have a more specific time period? We have all the old newspapers here, but they are not indexed and a search of all 1920s newspapers would be very time consuming.
The Query Ladies
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CGAS Port Angeles 1945
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Posted: 2010-05-24 08:53:57 PDT By Nora Chidlow
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Hello!
My name is Nora Chidlow. I am the archivist for the U.S. Coast Guard, based in Washington, DC. Occasionally I research and write about historical topics relating to the Coast Guard for our office's website. I'm presently working on a story and am seeking local information, if available.
On 14 January 1945, a Navy bomber became lost and ran out of fuel in a snowstorm over what is now North Cascade National Park. A search party comprised of the Navy, Coast Guard, Forest Service, Army, and the National Ski Patrol set out to find the six crew members who had ditched the plane moments before it crashed. The Coast Guard crew came from CGAS Port Angeles. This search and rescue was the first case of the newly formed Air-Land Rescue Unit at the station. I came across 31 photos of the search while re-processing our Disaster files; they had been misfiled and did not contain enough information for proper filing sequences. My research for ths basic filing information revealed a unique story, and I am now putting it together.
I am looking for any background/local information on this rescue. There were 12 Coasties involved in the search; I only know the name of the Air-Land officer in charge of this party - LT(jg) John W. Jay. I would be interested in any newspaper accounts of this crash and any information on CGAS Port Angeles and its activities during WW2. Additionally, I'd love to find out the names of the entire search party, though I know a very long shot.
Please email me at Nora.L.Chidlow@uscg.mil if you have anything.
Thank you so much!!
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Re: CGAS Port Angeles 1945
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Posted: 2010-05-26 11:30:33 PDT By Kathy Monds
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This query is being answered directly to Nora Chidlow.
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Place names
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Posted: 2010-05-13 10:25:40 PDT By Dick Blumenthal
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I am researching place names in our inland waters. I have encountered several in Clallam County for which I cannot find any reference. I would appreciate if you could look over the list and provide any information, i.e., who named the place, when, why, etc. Please include cites as available. Alternatively, if you know of another source that might be helpful, I would appreciate the reference.
Dick Blumenthal
Clallam Jones Rk, between Cape Flattery & Tatoosh I;
Clallam Hole in the Wall, between Cape Flattery & Tatoosh I;
Clallam Chibadehl Rocks, 2 mil E of Cape Flattery;
Clallam Warm House Beach, 2 ½ mi E of Cape Flattery;
Clallam First Beach, E of Baadah Pt on the Strait of Juan de Fuca;
Clallam Second Beach, further east;
Clallam Third Beach, still further E;
Clallam Agate Bay, immed W of Crescent Bay on the Str of Juan de Fuca;
Clallam Morse Creek It flows into the Strait of Juan de Fuca, east of Port Angeles;
Clallam Grays Marsh, 3 mi SE of Dungeness;
Clallam Gibson Spit, W entr to Sequim Bay;
Clallam Travis Spit, covers mouth of Sequim Bay;
Clallam Paradise Cove, at E side Sequim Bay, small cove @ Kiapot Pt
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Re: Place names
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Posted: 2010-06-21 12:41:33 PDT By Kathy Monds
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Hi Dick:
I apologize for the delay. I had hoped to have all the answers but this reply will only address the names found in "Gods & Goblins: A Field Guide to Place Names of Olympic National Park" by Smitty Parratt.
Hole in the Wall: The source of this name is unknown. Referred to by early white settlers as "Tunnel Rock," the landmark, now called "Hole in the Wall," is a natural wave-carved arch in a large shoreline rock monolith. Local tribesmen say that many years ago the Quileute Tribe was badly defeated here in a retaliatory raid by the Nitinat tribe of Vancouver Island.
First Beach: Is so named because it is just that: It is the first stretch of pacific Beach found south of the Indian Village of LaPush. It is separated from Second and Third Beaches by impassable headlands.
Second Beach: Unknown but see above.
Third Beach: This is the third beach south of the Indian Village of LaPush, Washington, each separated from the next by impassable headlands. In 1902, an attempt was made to drill oil at this site.
Morse Creek: Originally called Chambers Creek for early settler Frank chambers, Sr., this stream which empties into the Strait of Juan de Fuca just a few miles east of downtown Port Angeles, now carries the name of the two men who homesteaded there in 1863: Eben Gay Morse and his brother, David W. Morse. The men came to Port Angeles that year from Nova Scotia, began buying property, and soon owned all of what is now the 80-acre Four Seasons Ranch, a residential area with a nine-hole, par three golf course.
We will see what we can come up with for the other places you have named.
Thank you for your patience.
The Query Ladies
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Re: Place names
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Posted: 2010-06-23 08:59:27 PDT By Kathy Monds
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Hi Dick:
Here is information about two other names. The information is from Tracks, Trails and Tales by Harriet U. Fish.
Travis Spit: The name of the rest of the spit today is written as "Travis," about which I have a theory. In studying the title progression of this and its surrounding lands, we find the names of Robert W. and Sara Travers having held land patents in this area as early as 1882. It would have been an understandable error to change the "ers" to "is" at the end of the name. My guess is that this is the origin of "Travis."
Kiapot Point: Kiapot was the early name given by white man to the tip of the natural sand-spit which protrudes from the east, reducing in size, the water's exit at the mouth of Sequim Bay. This name appears early, on an 1841 map prepared by the American exploration expedition led by Charles Wilkes, which first surveyed Clallam County. So this name has been long in use.
No doubt the word's origen came from white man's interpretation of the spelling of an unwritten Indian word, meaning "to stop, leave off, enough" and recorded in the chinook dictionaries as "Kopet."
Hope this is helpful!
The Query Ladies
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Old photographs
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Posted: 2010-04-17 13:51:01 PDT By allen d. whitehead
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Hello,
My grandfather, John Benson Whitehead was a photographer. He got his first camera from selling bluing from a magazine when he was 16 and living on the family homestead (Joseph B. and Sarah E. Whitehead) on the Dungeness river. His sister, Ina Whitehead, was a school teacher who taught at Chimacum, "Seguen", and Beaver. Between the two, I have inherited many pictures which I would like to share with you. I have a fairly good scanner and can convey them electronically if you will instruct me where to send them.
Sincerely,
Allen Whitehead
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Re: Old photographs
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Posted: 2010-04-21 14:42:56 PDT By Kathy Monds
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Hi Allen:
We would love to have you share those family photos with us. Also, we would appreciate more information about your grandfather.
You may send electronic images to
artifact@olypen.com.
Thank you so much!!!
The Query Ladies
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Re: Old photographs
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Posted: 2010-04-28 21:47:37 PDT By allen d. whitehead
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Did you receive the photos I sent you? I sent a quite large attachment of them to you about 5 days ago.
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Re: Old photographs
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Posted: 2010-04-29 08:13:45 PDT By Kathy Monds
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Hi Allen:
Yes, we received the photos and your information. Thank you so much!
We had a major project here that went into the mail yesterday--hopefully, I will be able to get back to answering queries more promptly.
The Query Ladies
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Ginger Nichols/Destruction Island Lighthouse
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Posted: 2010-04-13 15:55:39 PDT By Linda Borromeo
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Dear Query Ladies,
I'm an author having fun researching the Destruction Island Lighthouse for a book I'm writing. I didn't know about the History Tales lecture by Ginger Nichols, on Jan. 3, 2010, until I saw a notice about it on your website today. If the event was taped, I would love to purchase a copy of it on DVD, if possible.
Thank you for your help!
Linda
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Re: Ginger Nichols/Destruction Island Lighthouse
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Posted: 2010-04-21 14:47:32 PDT By Kathy Monds
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Hi Linda:
Unfortunately, we did not start taping our History Tales lectures until after Ginger's program.
I don't know if you live in Clallam County, but Ginger is asked to give her program to other groups.
Please let me know if you would like us to talk with Ginger about any upcoming programs she may be presenting.
The Query Ladies
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Re: Ginger Nichols/Destruction Island Lighthouse
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Posted: 2010-05-05 16:49:21 PDT By Linda Borromeo
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Thank you so much for your reply. Yes, I would appreciate knowing if Mrs. Nichols has any upcoming programs in Skagit or Whatcom counties. Also, would you ask her if she knows if any of the programs she has presented previously were taped and available in DVD?
Thank you very much for your time and help!
Linda
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George Durham
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Posted: 2010-04-08 15:16:04 PDT By Alan Hoover
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There is an article, "Canoes from Cedar Logs: A Study of Early Types and Designs" in an issue of the Pacific Northwest Quarterly (April 1955:33-39) by George Durham. The bio on the author is that he "is a librarian of Clallam County Library, Port Angeles, Washington". Was this gentleman also known as Bill Durham who wrote Canoes and Kayaks of Western American (1960)? Thanks for you help and any further biographical info about Mr. Durham(s).
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Re: George Durham
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Posted: 2010-04-21 14:55:32 PDT By Kathy Monds
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Hi Alan:
No luck so far in determining whether George & Bill were one and the same. The only information we fund about George was in a 1954 Polk City Directory. George W. Durham is listed as a librarian with the county library. He does not appear in the 1956 directory nor do we have an obituary for him.
Have you tried getting in touch with the Washington State Historical Society or the Museum of History and Industry?
The Query Ladies
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Lincoln Heights
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Posted: 2010-04-06 14:23:14 PDT By Ken Dunmire
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I was born about 4th and D Streets and attended Lincoln Grade School from abt 1937 thru 1943. If I can help with questions in that era, willing to share. Curious abt the collection in the old Lincoln School Historical Society. Have many old photos and willing to share.
Ken
kidunmire@yahoo.com
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Re: Lincoln Heights
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Posted: 2010-04-21 14:58:25 PDT By Kathy Monds
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Hi Ken:
Thank you for your offer to share info and photos with us. We have developed quite a file about Lincoln School but are always looking to add more!
Our research library is open Tuesdays from 9 a.m. to 3 p.m. You are welcome to drop by then and look through the photos we have about the school.
You can always call us at 452-2662.
The Query Ladies
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Beaver
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Posted: 2010-04-02 09:29:12 PDT By Christi Baron
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Hello,
I write a column for the PDN about the West End and was posed the question how and when did the community of Beaver get its name? Trapping or Beaver dams would be my guess but maybe not. Have you got any ideas or documents about this? Thanks so much, Christi Baron
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Re: Beaver
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Posted: 2010-04-02 09:40:42 PDT By Kathy Monds
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Hi Christi:
We love your column in the PDN! The photos and information are always so interesting.
According to June Robinson's "Why Do They Call It..." booklet about the West End,
BEAVER: A creek was so named because it flowed out of a lake (Beaver lake) that drains into the creek through a large swamp that was created by a beaver dam many years ago. The general area and the community, including the school, were named "Beaver" in the late 19th century.
I'm not sure where June got her information, but we'll do a little more checking here.
The Query Ladies
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Hotel Neah ca. 1910
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Posted: 2010-03-22 10:50:56 PDT By hiram lewis
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I have old photo of folks sitting on porch of Hotel Neah. I am assuming that it is from your neck of the woods given the name. any ideas? Hiram
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Re: Hotel Neah ca. 1910
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Posted: 2010-03-23 08:37:41 PDT By Kathy Monds
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Good morning, Hiram.
We'll take a look through our photos of Neah Bay to see if we have something that features a Hotel Neah and get back to you.
The Query Ladies
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Mt. Pleasant schools...
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Posted: 2010-03-16 15:36:44 PDT By Richard K. Martindale
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Hello, ladies. We are of the Epperson, Boyd, and Dorr families who came to P.A. in the first decade of the last century. The old Mt. Pleasant school burned down, and apparently the students all transferred to the new school, at the corner of Mt. Pleasant Road and Draper Lane. Do you know what year it was that the old school was destroyed by fire? Thanks, Richard K. "Max" Martindale 16 March 2010
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Re: Mt. Pleasant schools...
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Posted: 2010-03-17 10:49:11 PDT By Kathy Monds
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Hi Max:
A preliminary search of the usual sources didn't come up with an answer to your question, but I'll turn it over to another one of the Query Ladies tomorrow.
According to Jimmy Come Lately, the 3rd or 4th schoolhouse to be built in the county was the one-room log house on the then called Mount Misery (now Mount Pleasant) road. In 1906 a new school was built at Mount Pleasant, District 43. W.A. Lewis was the contractor. It was a small frame one-room building, measuring 12 feet by 16 feet. Mrs. Inez McLaughlin taught 16 pupils in this school in the early years of the century. On September 12, 1951, children from this school started attending the new Monroe School.
Mt. Misery school was created as School District #12 in 1888; in 1889, it was listed as having 22 scholars.
Consolidation of Port Angeles #7 and Mt. Pleasant #43 was finalized on September 13, 1949 and called Port Angeles School District #17.
This has nothing to do with the school, but seeing the names you listed, I thought you might enjoy these items from the Port Angeles Tribune Times, January 3, 1913. News from Mt. Pleasant:
Mrs. Fowler and Miss Bessie of Angeles, the families of Wm. Conway, J.W. Boyd and Mrs. Piper spent the day with Mr. Wm. Dorr.
Henry Boyd went to Angeles to be with his sick wife in the Taylor Hospital and who, under their skillful care, is progressing nicely and will soon be able to be home again.
Mr. E.A. Epperson came home from the Canyon to be with his family Christmas.
Hope we can have more about the school tomorrow.
One of the Query Ladies
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Re: Re: Mt. Pleasant schools...
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Posted: 2010-03-17 12:46:19 PDT By Richard K. Martindale
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Thanks! We really appreciate it. The Dorr, Epperson, and Boyd names in the 1913 news stories are all familiar to us. We have a good bit of information on them, and would be happy to pass it along. Also, we have information on the Keplers and Byers families, who came to P.A. from Michigan at about the same time as the Dorrs. Max
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Re: Leo James Flahaven/army/WWI
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Posted: 2010-03-08 18:17:37 PST By Diane Timm
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Not certain why this requested posted twice.
Incidently, I used to live in Port Angeles and worked at the old Carnegie Library before the addition was added to front. So glad to see the addition torn down and the Carnegie preserved.
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Re: Leo James Flahaven/army/WWI
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Posted: 2010-03-08 18:43:38 PST By Kathy Monds
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Are you related to Gloria Timm?
We'll do some checking tomorrow at work. A lot of the military personnel here during WWI were tied in with the Spruce Division--but a lot of those camps were further west than Joyce.
We do have newspapers from the time; also, we have some Spruce Division newsletters. We will also check with our colleagues in Joyce.
It would be fun to see a copy of the photo you have. The few we have of that time era are poorly identified.
Thanks for the query--and being involved with a historical society!!! Queries make our day--the questions are always interesting, as are the inquirers!
The Query Ladies
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Re: Re: Leo James Flahaven/army/WWI
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Posted: 2010-03-09 15:58:26 PST By Diane Timm
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Thank you for your quick reply! I am not related to Gloria Timm.
My daugher lives near Sequim and the next time I visit her I will come in with the photo and anything else I might have about his division.I will e-mail before I come, probably in April. Look forward to visiting the museum. Diane
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Re: Leo James Flahaven/army/WWI
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Posted: 2010-03-16 16:47:12 PDT By Diane Timm
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Following up on your last reply of March 8. Have you had a chance to look into the records you last indicated? Diane
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Re: Leo James Flahaven/army/WWI
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Posted: 2010-03-17 08:39:17 PDT By Kathy Monds
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Hi Diane:
We have 9 issues of Spruce, a newspaper devoted to the Spruce Division in Clallam County. One of those is quite large--the Victory Edition--which gives an overview of all the operations in the County.
We will be more than happy to have you read these on your visit. We also have all the newspapers from that time period. The newspapers are not indexed, but you would be welcome to choose a time period and start perusing. As you well know, the problem with looking through the old newspapers is that it's hard to stop once you get going!
We also have some photos of the Spruce Division.
Please let us know when you are coming so we can have the material ready for you.
I think you will really enjoy reading the Spruce newspapers. Most of them are only a few pages, but the articles give you a good idea of what was going on at the time.
From "Gossip of the Camps" in the September 15, 1918, edition:
"An advertisement nailed to a tree near Johnson McDermott's camp reads as follows: 'Wanted one moonshiner:must be kind, sound and gentle. Large salary paid. No questions asked.'"
Looking forward to meeting you!
The Query Ladies
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Re: Leo James Flahaven/army/WWI
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Posted: 2010-04-01 08:43:00 PDT By Diane Timm
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I appreciate all your assistance. I will contact you when I plan to visit the peninsula again.
Probably in April. Diane
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Re: Leo James Flahaven/army/WWI
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Posted: 2010-05-05 16:55:22 PDT By Diane Timm
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I believe that I will be able to visit the museum and take a look at the Spruce Newsletters on May 17 or 18. Let me know if this will work. Diane
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Re: Leo James Flahaven/army/WWI
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Posted: 2010-05-06 08:01:11 PDT By Kathy Monds
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Hi Diane:
How about Tuesday, May 18. That is the day our research library is open. I will have the Spruce newspapers ready for you, and a researcher will be available if you want to see other material about the Spruce Division.
We look forward to meeting you.
The Query Ladies
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Re: Re: Leo James Flahaven/army/WWI
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Posted: 2010-05-10 13:05:57 PDT By Diane Timm
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Tuesday,May 18th will be great. How early may I show up? Diane
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Re: Leo James Flahaven/army/WWI
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Posted: 2010-05-10 13:55:56 PDT By Kathy Monds
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We're here by 9 a.m.
The Query Ladies
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Re: Re: Leo James Flahaven/army/WWI
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Posted: 2010-05-10 16:02:25 PDT By Diane Timm
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I will be there shortly after 9am. Looking forward to meeting you! Diane
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Re: Patrick Mulholland
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Posted: 2010-02-12 14:59:19 PST By Kathy Monds
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Hi Jim:
The Genealogy Ladies and I had fun with this one. Virginia remembers the Mulholland Music Shop!
Your great uncle is listed in the 1926 Polk Directory as having a shop at 110 South Laurel where he sold musical instruments. His home was at 209 East 9th Street (which is the block where my home is, so I will see which house it was on my way home tonight). His wife's name was Mary.
In the 1936 and 1941-42 directories, his business is listed as Mulholland's Music & Radio Shop at 114 East First Street, phone number 439-W. His merchandise included appliances as well as music.
By 1946, the shop became Swindland's.
Our genealogy society has the obituaries; there is a charge for those. If you look up the Clallam County Genealogical Society on line, click on Obituaries 1891-current, print off the form and mail it to them. Mr. Mulholland is buried at Ocean view Cemetery; there is a tombstone picture available at findagrave.com. You may also find some military information at media.digitalarchives.wa.gov.
I hope this is of some help to you. Let us know if we can be of further assistance.
The Query Ladies
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Telephone Pioneer
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Posted: 2010-02-06 12:46:44 PST By Ralph Becker
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I'm looking for information about my grandmother, Mary E. Becker (nee Meagher). I have been told she was one of the early telephone workers in Clallam County, around 1900 or so. Do you have records of the early operators of that system? I live on Whidbey, but if there's hope I could come up to check that list.
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Re: Telephone Pioneer
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Posted: 2010-03-08 10:02:18 PST By Kathy Monds
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Hi Ralph:
Sorry for the delay. We checked our records and those in the genealogy library, but we were unable to find anything about your grandmother.
We have a few references to early telephone workers, but her name is not on the list.
Meagher is a well-known name here in Clallam County. If you don't mind our asking, who were her parents?
The Query Ladies
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Re: Port Angeles Railway Battery
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Posted: 2010-02-05 16:00:48 PST By Kathy Monds
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Hi Gary:
Thank you for responding to a previous request on the forum. We have always hoped that other people reading the queries will respond if they have further information.
We have not found any additional information about the guns at the west end of 5th or 6th Streets. In Dorothy Crowell's booklet, Clallam County 1941-1945, she says a resident recalls a machine gun nest installed on a point of land at his parents' place, but she does not identify who told her this story.
We have audio tapes of WWII memories, but they have not been transcribed. They are, however, available for listening to at our Research Library.
We have one photo in our collection that states "Guns at 6th Street, 2/15/42."
There is another photo which states "mobile coastal gun with camouflage net; could be as far west as Neah bay but most likely Camp Hayden. notice sandbag bunker around trees."
We will continue to check, but I hope this is of help to you.
The Query Ladies
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Re: Re: Port Angeles Railway Battery
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Posted: 2010-02-06 07:36:12 PST By Gary
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Kathy
Thank you for your response. Is it possible for you to post the "Guns at 6th St" photo?
I have a picture of another gun that I wanted to compare it to and I would like to visit the site during an up coming trip to the area.
Thank you
Gary
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Re: Re: Port Angeles Railway Battery
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Posted: 2010-07-19 15:37:51 PDT By Gary
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Kathy
I was rereading the posting from 2010-02-05 16:00:48 ie "mobile coastal gun with camouflage net; could be as far west as Neah bay but most likely Camp Hayden. notice sandbag bunker around trees"
The only mobile coastal guns that were emplaced from Port Angeles westward were the two railway guns in Port Angeles, a smaller 37mm gun battery at Ediz Hook and the four 155mm guns emplaced at Elwah East.
If the picture in question shows a gun on a railway carriage it should be similar to the first picture that is described above.
If the gun barrell bore is 37mm or about one and one half inches, it would be the 37mm at Ediz Hook.
If the picture in question shows large rubber tires, approximately four to five feet in diameter, it would be the 155mm at Elwah East.
It is possible any of the the three guns mentioned above could have sandbags around them.
Camp Hayden did not have any wheel mounted guns, only four guns, 2-16" and 2-6", that revolved on large steel rings embedded in concrete. The 16" had overhead concrete cover and the 6" and a steel shield surrounding the gun and carriage.
No additional large guns were emplaced further westward though 4-16" and 4-6" guns were planned for Cape Flattery until construction stopped in late 1943.
I would like to see this second picture if there is a way for you to post it. I should be able to narrow down the type of gun and possibly the location.
Gary
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Re: Port Angeles Railway Battery
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Posted: 2010-02-08 09:08:50 PST By Kathy Monds
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Hi Gary:
Please send an e-mail to artifact@olypen.com with your e-mail address. I will scan a copy of the photo and send it to you.
Thanks!
The Query Ladies
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Re: history of roads
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Posted: 2010-02-02 11:11:50 PST By Kathy Monds
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Hi John:
If you can get your hands on a copy of Jimmy Come Lately, there are quite a few references to roads.
In searching through the vertical file, there was quite a bit about county roads but not all that much specifically about Port Angeles.
A paper put together by S.H. Morse has the following information:
In 1863, a county road was laid out from Dungeness to Port Angeles as to intersect the road leading from the Elwha river to Port Angeles at the back of the Port Angeles Townsite Reserve. Road viewers were appointed by the Clallam County commissioners in February 1870 to view a county road from Port Angeles to the Elwha river. The report was approved and the board ordered this road to be opened as a public road.
Early roads were constructed by hand labor and puncheon used as a base. Roads were narrow and met the needs of wagons, walkers and horse riders.
Burlingame was a big name in early Clallam County road building. The firm built the original county road from Sequim-Dungeness to Port Angeles in 1890-91. For more than a generation, this was known as the Burlingame road. Not surfaced, it was dusty in the summer and a quagmire in rainy times and winter. Hills were so steep at Ennis, Morse and Siebert's Creeks that passengers in horse-drawn vehicles got out and walked. A second road was built by the county from the Clallam/Jefferson line to Port Angeles in 1913-14.
Do you want information about roads going west of Port Angeles as well?
The Query Ladies
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Re: Slip Tunnel, Clallam Bay
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Posted: 2010-01-18 10:06:54 PST By Kathy Monds
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Hi Roberta:
Could it be that your husband's grandfather worked for Owens Brothers (a sand & grave construction company.)
Our research librarian discovered that a slip tunnel is a tunnel between tunnels. Slip Point (near Clallam Bay)had a coal mine & perhaps there was a Slip Tunnel there.
One of our researchers is going to check with a source on the West End. If we find out anything else, we will let you know.
If you are willing to share a name, perhaps we (or our genealogy library) can find out something more.
Our phone number is 452-2662 if you would like to stop by sometime.
The Query Ladies
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Re: Lincoln Theater History
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Posted: 2010-01-18 10:29:45 PST By Kathy Monds
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Hi Greg:
Sorry for the delay; things always seem to be hopping around here!
According to Jimmy Come Lately, page. 228,
Edwin and Evar Halberg, company managers of Port Angeles Theaters, Incorporated, opened the Lincoln Theater for its first night's performance on September 4, 1916. The Lincoln was said to be the finest and most artistic small town theater on the Pacific Coast complete with its $5,000 Kimball Symphony Orchestra Pipe Organ. They had costumes for the attendants of the theater. An excerpt from a 1916 newspaper review follows: "Everything about the Lincoln tends to make one sit back in his seat in a contented mood. For the sweethearts and more exclusive sets, the loges and boxes will be found attractive, while for the real movie fan the comfortable opera house chairs will be plenty good enough, for they 'fit' comfortably."
America's Sweetheart Mary Pickford graced the screen for the Lincoln Theater's opening in her pathetic characterization of The Foundling. For the lustier fans, Spell of the Yukon was on the next bill.
At the organ, Mrs. Mabel Douglas played "To a Wild Rose," "Somewhere a Voice is Calling" and Mrs. Victoria Porte, mezzo soprano, sang "Matinata." This musical combination continued for years at the Lincoln Theater.
The theater was decorated in colonial style including an effect of colonial style windows when the lights were turned off. The Lincoln Theater's pure white front and elaborate lighting system made an entirely new street of First Street between Lincoln and Laurel Streets. Over the bay window was a life-size bust of Lincoln in bronze.
Prices listed for the 1916 Lincoln admissions were adults, fifteen cents; loges, twenty-five cents; and children, fifteen cents.
We have more information in our files and some photos. If you live in Clallam County, you are welcome to come in and see what we have. Our research library is open Tuesdays from 9 a.m. to 3 p.m. or by appointment.
Hope this is useful to you. And please let us know if we can be of further assistance.
The Query Ladies
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Re: Casino/Brothel & Liquor Smuggling at Place Road
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Posted: 2010-01-08 10:26:25 PST By Kathy Monds
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Hi Rob:
We did not find anything to substantiate a story about a casino and brothel at Place Road, but we do know there was a lot of smuggling going on all along the coast.
We do have information about The Place Resort. It was built by E.A. Smith in the 1930s. There was a lodge and rental cabins. The large building was made of stacked logs with 4 round windows on one side and 5 on the other side made from rings 12-14 inches thick. The building had electricity, a frieplace and double plumbing. It was featurd in Ripley's "Believe It or Not."
There was a dance floor, food was served, and there was a small store. The family lived in quarters in one end.
The main building was blown up in the 50s or early 60s. The story goes that men had too much to drink. The plumbing froze and dynamite was used to clear the plumbing. Two men thought it was funny. They learned a small blast would loosen the nails and made them easy to pull; but too many sticks were just too much and the whole building blew up.
As on 2010, one cabin still stands.
Harriet Fish wrote an article about "How Place Road got its name" for The Daily News on December 6, 1981.
While we didn't exactly answer your question, we hope this information is of interest.
Thanks!
The Query Ladies
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Re: Hartnagels
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Posted: 2010-01-08 10:28:05 PST By Kathy Monds
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Hi Kevin:
We haven't forgotten your request--just doing a little more research.
We'll get back to you next week.
The Query Ladies
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Re: William W. Winsor, lightkeeper at Tatoosh Island
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Posted: 2009-12-20 20:54:33 PST By Kathy Monds
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Hi Wendy:
What an interesting request! We will bring in our genealogy researcher on this one as well. Our hours may be curtailed over the next two weeks for the holidays, but we will start the search on Tuesday.
The Query Ladies
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Re: Re: William W. Winsor, lightkeeper at Tatoosh Island
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Posted: 2009-12-21 20:49:33 PST By Wendy Hawksley
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Thank you very much. I look forward to hearing more and understand about the shortened hours. I greatly appreciate your efforts and wish you Happy Holidays!
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Re: Re: Re: William W. Winsor, lightkeeper at Tatoosh Island
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Posted: 2010-06-18 22:16:42 PDT By Mary
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I have a small bit of information on William Winsor, He bought a schooner from my great great grandfather, on which he and his friends were accompanied by James Swan to Neah Bay. See Swans' book "Almost Out of This World".
Mary
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Re: William W. Winsor, lightkeeper at Tatoosh Island
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Posted: 2010-01-08 09:42:01 PST By Kathy Monds
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Hi Wendy:
William W. Winsor is listed in Jimmy Come Lately as being born in 1818 in Maine. He is listed as a captain. He took out a donation claim and was a farmer in Cherbourg (early name for Port Angeles) in 1859.
Jimmy Come Lately also has him listed in Neah Bay with a settlement of white traders in August of 1857. Henry Webster, William Winsor, Charles Winsor, J.A. Jenkins and Charles Strong arrived and established a trading post across from the tip of Wadaah Island, but Winsor did not stay long. He is also listed as a light keeper at Tatoosh.
If you go to HistoryLink.org, Winsor has brief listings in Essays 5703 and 8210.
We were not able to find anything about his death.
Wish we had more to share. If something else does come to light, we will let you know.
Thanks!
The Query Ladies
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Re: William W. Winsor, lightkeeper at Tatoosh Island
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Posted: 2010-01-09 16:22:37 PST By Wendy Hawksley
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The 1860 census shows that William W. Winsor at "Tatooch Island", born about 1812 in Massachusetts.
Massachusetts court records also show that William was out of the state during that time, and he did not die in Massachusetts. I have a feeling that Willam W. Winsor of Duxbury and Tatoosh Island are the same person.
I will investigate further, and I really appreciate the research you have done.
Thank you very much for your time!
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Re: Pysht Pottery
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Posted: 2009-12-10 12:41:09 PST By Kathy Monds
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Hi Vernon:
Pysht Pottery is no longer in business--a pity since their work was quite wonderful.
We have a request out to one of the former owners; we will send information when we hear from her.
Thanks!
The Query Ladies
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Re: Morgart Land Company
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Posted: 2009-12-02 08:04:21 PST By Kathy Monds
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Good morning, Sally:
Our research librarian checked all the available resources we have, and we could find nothing about the Morgart Land Company. They are not listed in any of the history books we have nor are they listed in any of the directories from that time period. Do you have the names of any of the individuals involved with this company?
The Query Ladies
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Re: Re: Morgart Land Company
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Posted: 2009-12-02 14:57:00 PST By Sally Henson
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Thanks! On the articles of incoropration it lists F.B. Morgart, C.E. Gay, and W. M. Gay. Morgart is the President. I know that Morgart's first name is Frederick. From the description, they were dealing in the purchase and sale of real estate, as well as, construction. Additionally, it sounds that they were in the management of financial end of those transactions. And lastly, they were acting as trustees of deeds, etc. They are stated as dealing generally in real estate in Clallam and other counties in the State of Washington; the principal place of business is noted as Port Angeles. It states their Board of Trustees shall be composed of three or more resident stock holders in additional to the 3 gentlemen identified above. The instrument is dated 20 Jan 1891. Hope this helps you uncover something about the company. Thanks, again.
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Re: Morgart Land Company
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Posted: 2009-12-09 14:46:51 PST By Kathy Monds
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I just spent 15 minutes on my reply only to have the computer say there was an error & could not send the response!!
SO, let's try again.
This one is a puzzler. I brought in one of our Genealogy researchers, but we still did not have much luck.
The 1889 Census lists F.B. Morgart, age 45, white male, Teamster, married; F.Morgart, age 47, white female, married; and M Morgart, age 19, white female. None of these people are listed in the 1900 census.
There is an obit for Fannie Morgart (Frederick's wife) who died in 1906. Her two sisters and brother filed a petition to have James Pettitt appointed as administrator of Fannie's estate because her husband "refuses and neglects so to do."
Frederick responds that they had no children, no parents, and there is no need for an administrator.
We still found no mention of a Morgart Land Company.
W.R. (Wilson Riley) Gay appears everywhere in 1891 newspapers. He is listed as an attorney, U.S. Circuit Court Commissioner, and real estate agent. There are a number of half-page ads for his real estate company.
A brief in the November 14, 1891, Times states an order admitting C.E. Gay as attorney and counselor at law in the Superior court of the State of Washington on his taking the examination and oath as required by law.
I went through a number of 1891 papers but did not find much else. The newspapers are not indexed, and it would take days to go through the 1890s papers. If by any chance you are in Port Angeles, we'd be happy to make arrangements for you to look through the papers. They make fascinating reading!
Wish we could have been of more assistance.
The Query Ladies
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Re: Re: Morgart Land Company
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Posted: 2009-12-10 10:21:34 PST By Sally Henson
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TEST! I just did the same thing as you -- spent 15 minutes typing my response only to receive an error message that it couldn't be sent. Shall see if this one is transmitted.
Sally Henson
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Re: Re: Morgart Land Company
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Posted: 2009-12-10 10:27:11 PST By Sally Henson
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Will make this response much briefer than the one I "lost." Your response gave me great information on the Morgart family members and they are my primary interest. I can live with what I know about the Land Company. I am so pleased to learn you have access to an obit for Fannie. She was Frederick's second wife. How do I go about getting a copy from you? Also -- I know date of death for Frederick and am presuming he died in Clallam County, also, but don't know that for fact. DOD is 8 Feb 1908. Is it possible for you to check for an obit for Frederick? Please advise me the proper protocol for these requests and I will follow your instructions.
THANK YOU for your much appreciated time and assistance!
Regards, Sally Henson
(Unfortunately, I live in Colorado and can't make a quick trip to PA.)
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Re: Morgart Land Company
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Posted: 2009-12-11 13:42:52 PST By Kathy Monds
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Hi Sally:
Please go to the Clallam County Genealogy Society website, print out the research request form, and mail it to CCGS, ATTN: Susan Koehler, P.O. Box 1327, Port Angeles, WA 98362.
Susan has been helping me with this, so she will be looking for your request. We did not find any obit for Frederick.
The Query Ladies
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Re: Morgart Land Company
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Posted: 2009-12-11 13:48:10 PST By Sally Henson
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THANKS! Beyond the year of 1906 for Fannie's obit, I don't have the date. Will have request in the mail tomorrow morning.
One more question: Where / who should I contact to get a copy of the petition Fannie's brother and sisters filed that you mentioned?
Thank you!!
Sally
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Re: Morgart Land Company
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Posted: 2009-12-11 14:55:26 PST By Kathy Monds
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Just put the request for the petition in with your query to Susan. She is the one who found it for us and will let you know if she can send you a copy.
The Query Ladies
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Re: Re: Morgart Land Company
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Posted: 2009-12-11 15:39:29 PST By Sally Henson
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THANK YOU!!
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Re: Lee Hotel
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Posted: 2009-12-02 08:11:50 PST By Kathy Monds
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Hi Nadine:
It's amazing how few photos there are of the Lee Hotel considering its preeminent presence in downtown. Our research librarian could find no photos from the 40s; she said it is shown in some street scenes we have from the 50s and 60s.
The Query Ladies
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Re: Lee Hotel
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Posted: 2009-12-03 15:04:19 PST By Nadine Jelsing
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Thanks very much for your response. Is it possible to see the street scene photos of the hotel from the 50s? I'm a producer at Oregon Public Broadcasting and I may want to use it -- with the library's permission -- in a documentary I'm producing.
Nadine
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Re: Airplane Crash South of Sequim
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Posted: 2009-12-02 08:17:52 PST By Kathy Monds
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Hi Ted:
We have not found anything in our files, but information about WWII crashes were not necessarily listed in the newspapers at the time.
There was an article in the November 3, 2002, Peninsula Daily News about a man from Olympia who traces old crash sites. Are you familiar with this?
The Query Ladies
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Re: Picture of original horse drawn hearse in PA
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Posted: 2009-11-17 10:37:43 PST By Kathy Monds
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Hi Bob:
We've checked our photo archives and cannot find any photos of a horse drawn hearse. We checked with a retired librarian from NOLS, and she thinks there may be a photo in the public library's collection but couldn't say for sure. One of us will make a trip up there and see if we can find the photo she is referencing.
Is there a date connected with the paperwork you have?
If you do decide to donate the lanterns to our our collection, we would love to have them.
Thanks!
The Query Ladies
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Re: John Troy - 1897
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Posted: 2009-10-26 09:19:09 PDT By Kathy Monds
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Hi Lynne:
John Troy is an interesting character, although not as interesting as his wife Minerva Troy!
I had not heard about John Troy's alleged embezzlement of money while he was auditor, but this is a subject the Query Ladies would love to tackle.
One problem is going to be the newspapers. While we hold a large collection of them, the batch from mid-1896 through 1899 are missing.
We'll see what we can find out.
The Query Ladies
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Re: Re: John Troy - 1897
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Posted: 2009-10-26 23:20:18 PDT By Lynne Snifka
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That would be SOOOO great. I'm writing about Troy and it seems this "incident" has never been reported upon in Alaska (where I am). Minerva??? What have you got there? All I know is that they got divorced (though I don't know why) and that she became an artist and musician. I do know that John had primary custody of their daughters, Helen and Dorothy, which seems odd for 1911. Anything you can tell me would be great! You can also reach me at:
lsnifka@alaska.edu
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Re: Army Camp in Port Angeles
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Posted: 2009-11-17 10:48:23 PST By Kathy Monds
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Hi Dick:
Many apologies for my tardiness in getting back to you.
The only information we could find were references to a camp in Lincoln Park; camouflaged guns on the bluffs near West 5th Street; pillboxes on Highway 101 across from Fairview Grocery and the Elwha River; and soldiers at the Dry Creek Grange hall.
If you would like, we can post your request in our quarterly newsletter and see if anyone responds.
The Query Ladies
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Re: Army Camp in Port Angeles
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Posted: 2010-02-05 07:50:02 PST By Gary
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There was a railway battery of two 8-inch guns positioned in Port Angeles during the war. The location suggested at the West end of 5th street for the camouflaged guns is probably the railway battery.
The Elwah River site was composed of two separate military sites.
Elwah West had a dug in observation post on the edge of the bluff. The station has since fallen down the bluff.
Elwah East had a dug in observation post, a radar tower and power plant, four circular gun mounts known as Panama Mounts and an observation post for the guns.
Additional observation posts extended west of Elwah to Camp Hayden and further west ending at Pillar Point.
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Re: Crescent Lake - Historic Novel - Hal Burton
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Posted: 2009-09-23 09:20:35 PDT By Kathy Monds
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Good morning, Hal--
Thank you for your query. Our History Tales program is set for 2009-2010, but there may be another opportunity for you to speak to our Historical Society. Would you please send further information.
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Re: Bovee's Meadow
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Posted: 2009-08-31 09:31:12 PDT By Kathy Monds
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Hi Anne:
We will check with some other resources before giving a definitive answer (if, indeed, there is one). But Jimmy Come Lately lists Walter G. Bovee as the manager of the Lee Hotel who also managed property at Lake Crescent Lodge.
We'll dig deeper!
The Query Ladies
P.S. There is a very good book put out by ONP in 1983, Historic Resource Study. It is not one you can purchase, but we have a copy in our research library. Don't know if NOLS has one as well.
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Re: Bovee's Meadow
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Posted: 2009-08-31 10:55:26 PDT By Kathy Monds
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Yes, Anne, Bovee's Meadow is named after Walter G. Bovee. According to Gods & Goblins (another terrific resource which has just been reprinted),
"Mr. and Mrs. Bovee lived in this area during the 1950s. The Bovees owned Lake Crescent Lodge, which they later sold to the National Park Service. The property includes the dead hulk of what was once the world's largest grand fir.The last building was removed in the late 1960s."
The Bovees moved to California, where Walter died in 1968.
Thanks for your query!
The Query Ladies
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Re: Bovee's Meadow
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Posted: 2009-09-01 16:48:02 PDT By Anne Chastain
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Thank you all.
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Re: where is this?
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Posted: 2009-07-13 20:24:33 PDT By Kathy Monds
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Hi Joyce:
The genealogy library gave us your e-mail and the photos; our research librarian will be in tomorrow and we'll see if we can solve your mystery. If someone in the library cannot identify it, we may pass it around to some of the "old timers" who work with us and see what we can find out!
Thanks for your patience.
The Query Ladies
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Re: Re: where is this?
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Posted: 2009-07-22 20:11:51 PDT By Joyce Blankenship
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I showed my picture to the people at Lairds Corner grocery and their first response was:
Oh that looks like Walt's Boulevard up on Lauridsen (where Albertsons is now).
I think they said Walt. Anyhow, they said it was torn down so at least that's a clue.
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